Posts by days of future passed

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Subliminal Messaging

by truthlover123 in

for over 20 years subliminal pictures showed up in most books, wt, and awakes- eighties, nineties and into 2000's.... demons, gods, you name it-- .

question: is anyone seeing anything like this in todays publications?

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Subliminal Messaging

by truthlover123 in

for over 20 years subliminal pictures showed up in most books, wt, and awakes- eighties, nineties and into 2000's.... demons, gods, you name it-- .

question: is anyone seeing anything like this in todays publications?

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Why the Catholic Church outlast Jehovah's Witnesses

by no-zombie in

many of us who are old timers in "truth", will clearly remember how we and the organization gloated when christendom began selling off their churches, as we saw many ending up becoming cafe's and art galleries.

i personally remember being told (both in general conversation and in print) that the fall of their congregant numbers meant that most churches were ultimately attended by the elderly and it was clearly linked to the "drying up of her waters" in reference to the fall of babylon and babylon the great..

how ironic, that this very situation has now befallen the society and our local kingdom halls..

days of future passed

Yes being one of the first major religions has it's advantages. They also didn't have the internet to debunk them for hundreds of years.

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Subliminal Messaging

by truthlover123 in

for over 20 years subliminal pictures showed up in most books, wt, and awakes- eighties, nineties and into 2000's.... demons, gods, you name it-- .

question: is anyone seeing anything like this in todays publications?

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days of future passed

Xanthippe - There is something there. But what the intent is - joke by a bored artist - revenge by a pimo artist - the king of Evil known as the WT - shrugs.

Or an even simpler explanation - lazy artist that used a photoshop tool to remake the background and ended up doing a mirror by mistake because well, they were lazy.

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Subliminal Messaging

by truthlover123 in

for over 20 years subliminal pictures showed up in most books, wt, and awakes- eighties, nineties and into 2000's.... demons, gods, you name it-- .

question: is anyone seeing anything like this in todays publications?

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days of future passed

I don't really see anything in the above picture but I do see a difference in how the sleeve folds are painted. The original artist has painted the folds in a confident way on the arm to the right. But to me it appears that someone else has added a very weak and overdone set of folds on the sleeve to the left. Just where the elbow crook is. Is there something there or did the art directors ask for an add on? Who knows. In my opinion, it doesn't look good or right.

I zoomed in on the picture to where his right is raised. I think the arm and hand may have been higher and then it was lowered a little. There are some brush lines in the background just a bit higher and to the left that suggest that and that may be why the sleeves suffered a change in the folds.

I see what truthlover123 is talking about. Just above that arm is a part of the background that is a design. The background itself a loose abstract but in that area if you zoom in a bit, you see a "mirrored" image. Mirrored in that if divided it is equal on the left and right. That is different from the rest of the background abstract. Probably a joke by the WT artist knowing that people are looking for that kind of stuff.

I don't have photoshop on this comp or I would intensify the colors just to see what extent they played with the background.

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Subliminal Messaging

by truthlover123 in

for over 20 years subliminal pictures showed up in most books, wt, and awakes- eighties, nineties and into 2000's.... demons, gods, you name it-- .

question: is anyone seeing anything like this in todays publications?

.

days of future passed

I'm an artist and I have noticed WT artist's add their own "twists" to pictures. I don't look through the mags anymore so it just happens occasionally that I do see images that are suggestive. A few years ago, someone left a mag on my doorstep that had to do with smoking. There was an astray with smoke going up in the center. Smoke is interesting to draw, but I have never seen smoke portrayed like this. There was choppy bits at the top and the smoke that was raising, was unnatural. It could just be a poor artist trying to make do, but I scanned it in and took a look at with Photoshop. What came out when I did some shadow adjustments, was two torsos, female and male in the smoke. One had green tones and the other pink so that they stood out. Because you know, smoke doesn't make a rounded W shape - a butt - and that is what drew my attention to it.

The other was an illustration of a long row of angels behind Jehovah (the invisible) on his throne. I actually was investigating all of the fancy lines emanating from the throne when I noticed one of the near angels behind the throne, with a strange smirk on his face. he was looking to his right, not quite to the face of the angel next to him. The expression didn't make any sense and neither did the line of his gaze. There seemed to be some overworking in the angel next to him as if they had changed the composition. These pictures in the "new" magazines always seem lighter than the original picture so I used photoshop to intensify the colors to bring detail back. Well there was an oddly shaped thing right below the angel's waist that stood to the right of the smirking one. Now the smirker's gaze had a point of reference. Naughty indeed.

The smoke illustration was very subtle and reminds me of the advertising industry. The naughty angel relies on the finished published picture being washed out and so their little joke is less noticeable. Are all of these sanctioned by the WT? I don't think so. Animated movies have had this kind of trouble before.

The computer I'm using is a Window pc and not the Mac that died with my pictures so I can't post them. (I went to the dark side)

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Were You A Gullible JW?

by minimus in

jw
friends

i think every congregation has their group that sees everything as a sign that they are god’s chosen people.

if a witness didn’t go to a meeting and a storm came and destroyed their house and killed them, and only the kingdom hall was saved, that was a sign that we should be in jehovah’s house.

if russia persecuted jws , it’s proof we are living in the last days.

days of future passed

I believed it all until I didn't. I have always been a very honest person so I believed that the GB would never lie because that is the worse thing you could do regarding God.

Imagine a cartoon where a novice demon asks "Where does all the fire from Hell come from anyway?? So he's taken down a hundred flight of stairs to a room. Inside the room are the GB with their pants on fire. Such Liars.

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New mangled words

by road to nowhere in

jw
friends

exampler.

like in christ is ours.

add this to liberry pronounciation and aks.

days of future passed

I have to ask because I'm not really sure of the answer. Where does Jehover come from? A couple that was away for awhile came back with that pronunciation of Jehovah. I've heard some Brits say it, is it from there? Kind of reminds me of how Colonel is said as kernel. Used to drive me crazy in school because I kept searching for a word with an R in it.

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Watchtower volunteer injuries

by neat blue dog in

i was recently talking with a zealous 'sister' who for years was assigned to use a certain chemical while taking care of wt property, only to have it irreparably damage her immune system partly because she wasn't trained properly.

she said there was a potential lawsuit but she didn't want to bring reproach on jehovah's organization.

has anybody else heard of similar situations, of people being hurt or injured in service to the org, maybe even because of them, and taking the loss so the org wouldn't look bad?.

days of future passed

I always wondered what had sparked an article in the WT about being safe on the job, wearing the right equipment. It was for the Jw's and not the worldlies. Guess one two many accidents.

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Stopping Thought Stopping.

by Peeringin in

im sure that many on this forum will be aware of the thought-stopping techniques that are taught by jws/wts to suppress difficult thoughts and overcome cognitive dissonance in favour of reverting back to belief in wts.. often in conversation these will be clear verbal cues that can sound unnatural during the course of a conversation, as though an individual is temporarily reading a script to overcome a difficult point.. my question to you all is this:.

are there any methods or resources that people are aware of that can help to break through a thought stopping mechanism when it is noticeably in effect?

a question perhaps, or technique that will encourage the individual to think the thought through in its entirety?.

days of future passed

I think questions are a good way to do it, or to tie in what they believe to actual events. A witness at work who is always doing the "the world is so bad" line is one I do the actual events on. When ISIS was destroying temples, she complained about the art being destroyed. I said Well they believe it's pagan. It's no different than the Israelite's going around and destroying all the pagan temples and art. Silence and big eyes. She says it's terrible the people they are killing. I say yes it is, they took homosexuals to the tops of roofs and threw them off. Silence.

I've also discussed with her that there are people that are born with both the X and Y so that doctors don't know what gender they are. That homosexuals are really born that way. That caused her to think.

Will this all mean something down the road to her? I don't know. But as they say A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step.